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  • holehogg
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    • Nov 2017
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    • Port Elizabeth, South Africa

    Everybody must have a GOAT

    Having been involved in the art of smoking food for only 21 months, I look back and believe I have come a long way but still fall short by the same distance.

    I guestimate I average 10 or 12 cooks a month so I do have a few in the belly. Had some really good ones and there have been the inescapable disasters.
    The successes I attribute to the sound advice from the pit and free side.

    This brings me to my GOAT.
    I came across AR in October of 2017 and spent weeks devouring as much as I could that led to me not remembering most of what I had just read. I then resorted to writing things down in an attempt to help me remember better and also separated into what I sensed were the most important things I needed to know.
    I had probably done 4 or 5 test smokes with cheap protein before tackling a Brisket and Pork Butt, actually 2 off each for my first festival cook.
    I was fearless and confident because I had perused the free side of AR. :-)
    I do need to mention this without going into too much detail that I was convinced at the time that my smoker had to run at exactly 225F and if it went a degree or two either side I would constantly fiddle with the gas burner tap. I discovered with time that my ovens sweet spot was 230F and it was Ok to cook at this temp.
    Anyways back to the Brisket and Butt.
    I cooked them to the advised 203F IT and they were done many hours before serving.
    I have a very well insulated box in my trailer that I manufactured out of 2” foam sandwiched between glass fiber skins to use as a cooler.
    I wrapped the meat in foil and into my cooler it went. It rested in the cooler for around 6 hours before it went back into the oven for reheating.

    At the festival there was another trailer also serving smoked foods and after the days happenings I went over to chat with him. I determined he had been smoking for almost a year and one of my questions to him was “what temp you smoking at?”
    225 was his answer.
    Fahrenheit? and he gave me a blank look and said nothing more.
    I asked him if I could have a taste of his PP so I could compare if I was on the right track. Well it was dry and stringy and he told me he served it in a wrap after frying and adding a bit of BBQ sauce.
    I invited him to sample mine to see what he thought. I had a whole Butt still in the oven that I had not pulled. After unwrapping he asked if he could pull on the bone.
    No problem.
    I saw the surprise on his face when the bone slid out and without asking he pulled a piece of meat off to taste. I told him this was my first Butt cook and he then became somewhat abrupt and said he must go finish packing up.
    I surmise he had never had any of his cooks come out like mine and think he had been cooking his meat at 225C not F.
    Looking back I can tell you this was my GOAT cook (Greatest of All Time)

    So what’s your GOAT cook whether the occasion or the result.
    Mine was a bit of both.


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    #2
    Awesome, enjoyed reading that! Not sure about my GOAT tho... maybe a Christmas prime rib I did in 2017. I was terrified since it was expensive and we were hosting the family dinner that year. But had read articles on the free side til my head was ready to explode and figured I had a puncher’s chance. I slowly brought it up to temp on my 22” kettle using the snake method. Santa brought the 26” kettle and SNS that morning, and I used that to sear it. Honestly not sure how it could’ve turned out better! I figured if this Meathead guy could work his magic thru even me, I needed to join The Pit. So 2 days later I did.

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    • Mosca
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      #3
      There isn’t really just one. But every time I get a protein right, I think to myself, “Aha! Now I understand!”

      Ribs were first, but I’d been doing ribs for a long time. No, actually rib roast in the oven came first, then ribs. Then chicken, then pork butts, then brisket (took a few tries), then rotisserie prime rib and whole chickens. Somewhere in there I did the Meathead turkey, which is great.

      Each meat has had that moment of satisfaction, that moment when I knew the guests weren’t just being polite, that I knew I nailed it. I don’t take notes, nor keep a log; I’d never find it. But I do know how to repeat a cook, and I can account for the variables well enough. And the more I do, the easier it gets.

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      • Foehn Watts
        Foehn Watts commented
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        I think that GOATs are always evolving over time, practice and recipes, no?

      • Mosca
        Mosca commented
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        Agreed. I’m in the middle of a rib cook that kind of went sideways for a few reasons, but because I’ve done so many of them it’s not a problem, I know what adjustments to make. They will still come out great. How could they not? They’re ribs!
    • jgreen
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      #4
      GOAT has to be finding this site. It changed the way I cook, from a backyard cremator ( kudos to Dan Johnston) to being able to create some food that occasionally gets compliments. Thanks to Meathead and my fellow pit members. Appreciate all you guys.

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      • mnavarre
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        • Jan 2018
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        • San Diego

        #5
        Well, not sure it was my GOAT from a cooking standpoint, but it did involve goat. Two goats in point of fact.

        So, ten years ago, at a brewery I used to work at we were getting ready for our anniversary party. Big shindig involving most of the other breweries in town and a bunch of volunteers. All of whom would need to be properly fed and watered after the event was over. The year before we'd just gotten a big ol' stack of pizzas and I cooked some goat on the Weber kettle we had in the keg yard. First time I'd ever cooked goat, and it came out pretty good for just making it up in the spice aisle at the grocery store. But the goat was just treats, really.

        So the next year my boss asked if I'd cook again if he could get some goat from the farmer who picked up our spent grain. Me, thinking I'd get a few nicely butchered cuts of goat and fire up the Weber like the year before said "Yeah, sure".

        <narratorvoice>He did not get neatly butchered cuts of goat, and the Weber was not involved.</narratorvoice>

        Instead of neatly butchered cuts of goat, I got two goats. As hanging sides. Three, actually, since my boss and I split one. So we hung them in our tasting room cold box and went back to being busy as one armed paper hangers. We may have forgotten to tell our tasting room manager that there were dead animals hanging in there.

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        The screaming was hilarious.

        So, since this is obviously not going to fit on a 22" kettle, my boss says "I'm going to borrow Jay's Santa Maria grill", and I'm like "Yeah, never cooked on one, but OK". I'm not putting 2+2 together here, because Jay owned a restaurant, and used his Santa Maria pit for catering gigs. It was the size of a small truck bed. And nobody had given any thought to wood. Two bags of KBB was not going to be enough. We ended sending one of the cellar men half way to Palomar Mountain to get a 1/4 cord of oak. Meanwhile, neither my boss or I have ever parted out a side of goat. Or any ungulate for that matter. Other than watching my uncle butcher a deer when I was eight or so. But, we had an exceedingly dull kitchen knife and a Sawz-All with a new blade. No one lost any parts (except the goats), and we even got it mostly right.

        Then I had to figure out how to set up a fire on a cooker the size of the bed of a Toyota Hilux, and season the meat with whatever our coffee-deficient brains had managed to grab at the grocery store on the way in, and set up all the jockey boxes we were serving from inside the brewery, and field questions from all the other brewers, the volunteers, my cow-orkers, and the bosses. And ended up cooking under the light of a halogen work light. Oh, and cook about 60 pounds of coiled sausage my boss bought from the afore-mentioned Jay. And a couple of salmon fillets for someone who just decided I needed more of a pain in my ass.

        And it all came out pretty damn good. And the owner still ordered a giant stack of pizzas.

        We also got to to spend months telling people that the rectangle of dead grass was where the alien ship landed. The landlord was not amused.

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        • holehogg
          holehogg commented
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          Very cool enjoyable story. I have yet to eat goat but I believe it's good to go. If you had to see what the goats (that amazingly roam around in the suburbs) look like you would understand why.
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        #6
        Mine has to be my first Thanksgiving turkey in the PBC. That day, I had also roasted a second turkey in the oven, just in case my guests didn't like smoked turkey. That moist, juicy, perfectly done PBC turkey went so fast I thought it had evaporated off the carcass!

        Kathryn

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        • holehogg
          holehogg commented
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          A Turkey is something I want to try but everytime I bring up the idea the family wants to know who's going to eat it. We've had one bad turkey meal (not cooked by me☺) and I'm unable to persuade them so far. If I find some turkey pieces in just going to do it.

        • Foehn Watts
          Foehn Watts commented
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          I have had the same experience: 2 turkeys, one smoked, one in oven. Smoked dissappeared-BAM.

          We learned to NOT let the adult children go first at smoked turkey! :-)
      • Skip
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        #7
        Way back around 2004 I got my first Traeger Pellet Grill. Every weekend I'd Experiment. Of course I don't remember much of the details but a Brisket that I cooked low and slow and then foiled at some point turned out pretty good. I was sooooooooo surprised! No dry brine, no meat thermometer, can't remember how I seasoned it, and I didn't know enough to have a lot of concern or fear on how it turned out. I had read quite a bit beforehand. When I sliced the brisket it was moist, flavorful, and had a smoke ring! Success!

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        • holehogg
          holehogg commented
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          I guess we can and do sometimes over think and over complicate things.
      • Foehn Watts
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        • Apr 2019
        • 38
        • Just about anything with smoke and/or grilled is better.

        #8
        I just had a GOAT experience: On the 4th I cooked 2 small whole-rack spareribs (which were just fine). Also I had found these enormous chicken drums at the local SmartNFinal, fresh and very cheap. Those drums smoked for an hour at 225º F on my Green Mountain DB, then hot cooked for just about an hour at 400º F. They were sprinkled with a little salt and pepper only. The temp on the largest was 185º when I pulled them. They were talking to me: crackle, sizzle, crackle .

        My sister bit into one and, "Oh my gawd, this chicken has the best flavor!" She re-iterated this several times and took a pair home with home with her. And they were good. The meat was juicy and had a good smoky chicken flavor. The flavor was quite succulent since all that connective tissue had cooked down to flavor and "Juicilate" the meat. I've had commercially smoked chicken before and it was not a good experience: it was dry and mealy, quite over-cooked.

        Only problem was that the skin, since it had nothing on it, was tough. Everyone just pulled the skin off; there was plenty of un-skinnned meat that had a nice flavor on it. I have since cooked some drums from the same batch with olive oiled skin and they were just as tasty and the skin was crisp and good.

        My GOAT was Chicken!

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        • holehogg
          holehogg commented
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          It's marvellous how versatile GOAT is.
      • Willard
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        • Apr 2018
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        #9
        Great post. Prime rib for me also on the rotisserie last Christmas. Looking forward to doing it again.

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        • holehogg
          holehogg commented
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          Reminded me of my bone in whole brisket on the spit I did about a month ago. Was definitely right up there.
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        #10
        I agree, everyone must have a GOAT, here is mine.....(well was mine)

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        • Huskee
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          She's a beaut, Clark

        • Mosca
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          Nice ‘65. I had one that I bought in ‘73, during the first gas crisis, for $250. Sold it 6 months later for $225. No one wanted them.

        • Willard
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          Swweeet!
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        #11
        Sister in law told me she wanted to eat lobster until she was full, so we brought them up for a visit and had our best friends come over for Surf and Turf as well. All of this meal was due to articles, recommendations and postings on AR.

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        Everyone still talks about it...makes me happy. Never thought I could do something like this...
        Last edited by Livermoron; July 13th, 2019, 11:59 AM.

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        • Foehn Watts
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          OMG, years ago my brother had a GOAT with the lobster he bulldozed the whole family into buying while we were beach camping in Southern California.

          Fresh (spiny? rock?--no big claws) lobster, local caught the day before, split in half like yours and grilled. Before we ate there was some bitchin' at the cost, but no complaints afterwards! He nailed those suckers over a wood fire! Thanks for the memories. .. :-)

        • Troutman
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          That’s one fantastic cook, wow !! I’d be proud too !!

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