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  • FireMan
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    • Jul 2015
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    Woe is Kale!

    According to some environmental group kale is one of the most pesticide laden vegetables. Just for ya’ll info it rated #3 in the no go group, aka pretty bad. So, Donw stop feedin it to yer bear. 🕶
  • Polarbear777
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    • Sep 2016
    • 1842

    #2
    Wait if it’s so bad tasting, why do the pests eat it and why should it need pesticides?

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      They eat it cuz it’s good for them. 😎
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    #3
    Rated #3 eh? This sounds suspiciously like a poll. Hmmmmmm.......

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    • FireMan
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      Wait a minute, this is an environmental group, they would rig this. 😳
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    #4
    Buy organic kale. Problem solved.

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  • FireMan
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    • Jul 2015
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    #5
    I also read somewhere that roundup is in everything ncluding beer, Molsens, Guinness, Bud, Miller, Heineken. Last I looked some of those are made in different continents.

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    • Thunder77
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      Thank goodness I don't drink any of those beers....
  • Donw
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    • Jul 2017
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    #6
    I told him he should quit but I am not sure he likes the idea. Right now he is just thinking about it.

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    • RonB
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      #7
      The pesticides are what give kale such a great flavor.

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        #8
        What do you call a Romantic Comedy about veggies?

        You've Got Kale!

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        • Spinaker
          Spinaker commented
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          Hahahaha, now that is a good joke. HawkerXP

        • Willy
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          Hiss! Boo!

        • HouseHomey
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          Bartender, cut him off now. 😃
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        #9
        It appears the problems with kale go beyond pesticides...

        https://www.freshplaza.com/article/9...e-to-listeria/

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          #10
          I like my kale with a side of glyphosate. A nice layer of that atop my tempeh burger, ahhhh...now where's my courduroy slacks...

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          • Willy
            Willy commented
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            Your cords are in the same closet as your old disco outfits and leisure suits.

            🎵 Stayin' alive 🎵 🎵 Stayin' alive 🎵 Ah ha ha ha Stayin' alive 🎵🎵🎵
            Last edited by Willy; March 21, 2019, 10:27 AM.

          • FireMan
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            Willy , you edited for The Bee Gees? Wow, that’s hip.

          • JCBBQ
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            Lol
        • Willy
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          #11
          Thanks for the links, ComfortablyNumb

          A couple of money quotes in the Forbes article:

          "For organic advocates and organic marketers this sort of information leaves one of two possibilities. They can agree with the EPA and other responsible agencies that consumers need not be concerned about the low-level pesticide residues found in either conventional and organic food. Alternatively they could choose not to believe those authorities and be forced to conclude that organic food is unsafe."

          and

          "However, an organization called the Environmental Working Group has severely mis-used these data year after year to construct what they call their "dirty dozen list." They are funded by many of the big players in the organic market (Organic Valley, Stonyfield Farms, Earthbound Farms, Applegate, Klean Kanteen, Dr. Bronner Soaps, Beauty Counter, Juice Beauty, Brown Advisory, Nature’s Path, Annie’s), and their goal is to frighten consumers away from conventional food and towards organic. The problem is that their non-scientific approach of simply counting detections regardless of the level or identity of the chemical would classify organic as "dirty" as well. Consumers should simply ignore the disinformation that comes from EWG and consider not supporting the companies that fund them."

          Meantime--More kale for the masses!

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          • Murdy
            Murdy commented
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            "They are funded by many of the big players in the organic market"

            The other side is bigger (ADM, Monsanto, Kraft, etc), has an even bigger financial interest and is capable of pushing back hard. Meanwhile, government watchdog agencies are lobbied and hamstrung by Congressional directives imposed at the behest of industry lobbyists.

            Consumers are left wondering who to trust. Nevertheless, common sense would seem to dictate that one should avoid eating things used to poison other things.

          • bardsleyque
            bardsleyque commented
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            We could just stop eating....everything! Oh wait,that might not work so well....

          • Willy
            Willy commented
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            @Murdy--Understood. I'm headed out for a few hours, and will respond later, not here
            but on the "beware of the marketeers" thread. That thread is probably a better choice for continuing this topic. ;«)
        • NapMaster
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          #12
          Focus people! Eat it or don't eat it. Don't agonize about it. Just know it taste like crapola! 🤣

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          • klflowers
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            • Sep 2015
            • 3557
            • Tennessee

            #13
            OK, I should have just passed this up, but the original CNBC article says:

            More than 92 percent of kale had residue from at least two pesticides after washing and peeling the appropriate vegetables, according to the report. Some had up to 18. Almost 60 percent of the kale samples showed residual Dacthal, a pesticide that is known as a possible human carcinogen.
            I didn't know you peeled kale. Maybe I should try that - it may taste better. Plus, since dacthal is only a possible carcinogen, it should be OK, right?

            They end up with this:

            Consumers should buy organic produce whenever possible to avoid pesticides, according to the report. But that shouldn’t deter people who can’t afford it from eating these items.

            “The health benefits of a diet rich in fruits and vegetables outweigh the risks of pesticide exposure,” EWG Research Analyst Carla Burns said in a release.
            So possibly poison the poor? Wait - I am poor...

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            • FireMan
              FireMan commented
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              Let them eat cake.

            • klflowers
              klflowers commented
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              Zactly

            • Mr. Bones
              Mr. Bones commented
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              +1
          • NapMaster
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            #14
            The air you breath is a possible carcinogen. UV light is a carcinogen, but the same source of UV helps your body make Vitamin D. Eat, breath, and live !! Just don't eat kale, cause its nasty. 😁

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              #15
              My philosophy is to I try to buy local hormone-free meats, I buy local organic vegetables and try to eat as many fresh vegetables as I can. If that's wrong then I'm not right.

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              • ComfortablyNumb
                ComfortablyNumb commented
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                Nothing wrong with that, more power to you. Everyone has the right to make their own eating choices. I hope you don't feel I was trying to impugn you, just pointing out certified organic is not pesticide-free, you would be surprised how many are under that impression.

              • Mr. Bones
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                Totally respect yer choice, an advocate it...
                Local can make a big difference, if ya can see their operation, understand how they roll, an are satisfied that it is in accordance with that which ya choose to consume.

                Th Black Angus I been eatin on, since last October, was raised by a good Brother, an coworker...I always used to pet th steer (Moe), an love on him, when I was out at Brad's house...sweet enough, kinda wanted to be a Lap Steer, lol!

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