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- Feb 2017
- 2157
- At a river near me, MD
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Weber Smokey Mountain 14.5"
Weber 22" Kettel
Weber Smokey Joe (2)
One Grill 45" Rotisserie
Lodge 5 qt. Dutch Oven
Lodge 10.5" Double Loop Skillet
Cast Iron 9" Skillet
Cast Iron 12" Skillet
Weber 22 Grill Grates
Home Built 55 Gallon Ugly Drum Smoker - "MUDS"
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That's a nice pit, the 24" is pricey (at least from Gator Pits). I'd pull the trigger. I was on the fence between a Gator and a Shirley and went with the Shirley,but part of me wishes I'd gotten a Gator with tuning plates vs. reverse flow. : )
Just to cast some perspective on this, I paid about $2,500 for my Shirley 24"x42" patio Cabinet model, but this came with a warming cabinet, and I can draft the traditional way using the cabinet as a warmer, or through the cabinet using it as an extension of the main cook chamber. I added a baffle so I could also draft right through it like a vertical cooker. I found a great deal on shipping, but Rich ships so many pits that he has an agreement with a freight co. so you may not pay much. The 42" cook chamber is somewhat deceptive - you loose about 6 inches on the end with the RF design, but the cabinets give you a lot of cooking space so maybe it's a wash.
The round firebox design on the Gator is an advantage when keeping your firebox clean, which will promote longevity. Mine is square, and no matter how much I sweep it with the hand broom I end up leaving behind a little ash in the welded corners. I may get a shop vac or a blower.
I live in the south so I don't have a need for an insulated firebox. Once up to temperature it's easy to keep the fire stoked so the main cook chamber stays at 250-275. Even Steven all day. The Shirley design works.
Tuning plates vs. RF? I gotta say, there is a hot end on my RF - the spot closest to the firebox is 15 to 25 deg. hotter than the rest of the chamber. But it's pretty much even cooking throughout, which is what some guys want. Others want zones. With tuning plates, you get the best of both worlds, and can remove them and clean them a little easier than with a RF. On the Shirley the baffle that acts as a tuning plate is welded in. I think I'd like to be able to get to the bottom of my main cook chamber with more ease, just for cleaning purposes, but it's not a deal breaker. Slight advantage to the traditional offset with tuning plates on that front. Bottom line: I think the ideal set up is a traditional offset with tuning plates because you can cook at one temp or create hot spots. I went with the Shirley primarily for the warming cabinet (multiple draft options to create a really versatile cooker).
Gator Pits is the standard for the traditional offset, but the prices reflect that. I think they are worth it, but YMMV.
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Club Member
- Sep 2016
- 1354
- Spokane, WA
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Weber 22" (4 of them)
Weber Ranch
Weber 26"
SNS Kettle
PK Grill (40+ years old)
Weber Jumbo Joe
Thermoworks Smoke, DOT, Signals, Smoke X4, and Thermopop
Slow n' Sear XL (2)
Slow n' Sear
http://completecarnivore.com is my site
Ground Chuck I think you will find that nobody here will ever try to talk you out of buying a cooker. We are a bunch of enablers here. If anything you will be encouraged to buy 2 or 3 of them.
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Or buy one or two for the rest of us, which reminds me. Hey Joe, when you going to buy me that new Blackstone griddle?
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ComfortablyNumb Between kids breaking their arms, needing dental work, a new baby coming in July, etc. my cooker budget has taken a hit this past month. But still trolling Craigslist and FB marketplace for one.
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- May 2014
- 19028
- Clare, Michigan area
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Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue
Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Masterbuilt Digital Charcoal Cabinet
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
Beautiful cooker! Looks almost identical, sizewise, to my Yoder loaded Wichita. I paid ~$2200 w/ delivery for mine, but that was 7 years ago. Best o' luck to ya in your new smoker endeavors, and whatever you do, take the time to learn YOUR cooker! They all have different traits just like your lady, your kids, or your dog, etc. Learn it and you'll have many years of enjoyment and good eating...but also work, don't forget that part with a stickburner!
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Welcome to The Pit! Like many others I can't help you with this decision but I might be able to shed a little light on the STL BBQ warehousing issue. There's a reason the pictures they post of shipments received and happy customers standing next to their new cooker(s) are all outside. They don't have a warehouse. For all the cookers they sell, and they sell a lot, the place is tiny! This the building they're in but as you can see they share it with an HVAC company.
Their part is in the back, lower section. Great place but small. And packed.
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