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  • Calicowdoc
    Club Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 9
    • Turlock CA

    I’m new...and maybe a little lostp

    But lost in a good way. The information I am coming across on your sight is amazing and overwhelming, hence the lost feeling.

    Let me back up up and do a proper introduction. I’m in central California, and currently own a Traeger Texas pro that I have been cooking on for about ten years. I’ve always been a little biased toward the Traeger brand having grown up about ten miles from where the first ones were made (my dad is still using the one he bought 25 years ago). In college I used Weber grills and got pretty comfortable using charcoal as well. But haven’t really used charcoal since.

    When getting ready to do a set of ribs last March on my Traeger I was watching a how to video on Malcom Reeds YouTube channel. He mentioned one of his gateway drum smokers which I had never heard of before. Fast forward a couple months and I see a PBC for sale at my local hardware store. I started some research on these cookers and came across this site. From everything I have been able to read so far I feel that the PBC would be not only a great tool to add to my backyard but super fun as well. This also seems to have reignited my desire to do more charcoal cooking in general as well.

    This is thinking sent me into several rabbit holes on this about other cookers that exist, how capable everything is on its own vs getting lots of cookers and more. Needless to say I think my head is spinning. Since I am in California I cook a lot of tri tip, but do love to smoke ribs, and brisket which have always been very doable on my Traeger. As I was looking at other cooker options I came across the slow n’ sear add on for kettles which looks amazing. Then I found the Hasty Bakes which seem to be the ultimate do it all charcoal cooker. While pricey it looks like it would be a fun cooker to use as well and great for just about everything. And now slow n’ sear just introduced a kamado!

    I cant lie, I think I want them all but not sure that that would be prudent at the moment. So I guess I’m going to finish up by asking for some advice. Should I get a PBC plus or minus a SnS kettle? Or should I think about spending the money on either a Hasty Bake or the SnS Kamado?
  • klflowers
    Club Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 3257
    • Tennessee

    Welcome to the pit. I am partial to kettles, owned them for years now, and the sns combo turns it into a smoking machine. If I didn’t already own a couple, I would look at the sns kettle. I think the kettle/sns combo is more versatile than the PBC, even though I want one of those too. No experience with a hasty bake or kamado.


    • Mt Smoker
      Club Member
      • Jul 2019
      • 40
      • Libby Montana

      I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. Good luck on your choice and welcome from Northwest Montana.


      • RonB
        Club Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 12721
        • Near Richmond VA
        • Weber Performer Deluxe
          Pizza insert
          Smokenator 1000
          Cookshack Smokette Elite
          2 Thermapens
          lots of probes.

        Welcome to The Pit. They are all good cookers, but the Weber Kettle - SnS combo does great both hot and fast and low and slow, and there are more accessories for the Kettle than anything else I can think of.


        • LA Pork Butt
          Charter Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 5373
          • Grew up in New Orleans, lived in Texas for 20 years, lived in Mandeville, LA for 22 years. I now liv

          Welcome to the Pit from Dallas, but I must warn you already appear to have a case of MCS (More Cooker Syndrome), and the Pit can only make it make it worst.


          • Calicowdoc
            Calicowdoc commented
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            Oh I think it took all of about five minutes on this wonderful site to start to feel the symptoms of MCS coming on!

          • JCGrill
            JCGrill commented
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            Exactly what I was thinking
        • Uncle Bob
          Club Member
          • Feb 2019
          • 379
          • Salado, Tx
          • Summerset TRL44 gas grill and side sear
            RecTec 590 Stampede
            Weber Performer
            Cajun Grill Preaux
            EcoQue Gen 3 wood fired oven
            Camp Chef Somerset IV 4 burner propane stove
            Oklahoma Joe's Bronco
            Oklahoma Joe's Bronco Pro
            Oklahoma Joe's Judge
            Golden's Cast Iron Grill
            Ooni Koda 16

          Welcome doc. You want in on a nasty little secret? No matter the question you've asked above or similar, you'll find advocates for each brand/style who will campaign with, sometimes, considerable passion, for what they believe in/own. And they are being genuinely sincere and honest for the most part...……...well, sometimes not so honest about competitive stuff, but that's driven by passion not deception.

          Just as one example from your commentary. As you've likely noticed there is a huge group of PBC fans here who wear their passion for it openly. But a couple of extra observations might round out for you if it is THE fit for you at this time. Most of those folks are pretty skilled outdoor cooks who've honed those skills on other cookers that help them deal with some of the idiosyncrasies of that device and live happily with it. They also have other cookers at hand to do some of the things that the PBC doesn't do well. Now, some will see that as a criticism of the PBC, but it's more just a commentary on the reality that all cookers have their limits, and that it's not always easy to figure out what those are. Couple that with your own place on the spectrum of skill/experience and the outcomes may or may not be as gratifying as the experienced advocates project. It's a good cooker, but it's not a "do it all" cooker. One saving grace is, it's comparatively inexpensive, as are it's half brother the Barrel House cooker, or to switch gears a tad, the Oklahoma Joe's Bronco. If you get the PBC or an alternative, and find it doesn't compliment your style or experience level, you won't be out much and you'll have learned some good lessons that you can carry forward for the next "ideal" purchase.

          Hint: there's a small link symbol in the box below some members names on the left side of the screen, it looks like a fountain pen tip. Click on that for many of the members and you'll see the array of cookers they own even though in any given post they may only advocate for one of them. The learning never stops...………………….
          Last edited by Uncle Bob; July 2, 2020, 02:06 PM.


          • HouseHomey
            HouseHomey commented
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            Well said sir!

          • Jared49
            Jared49 commented
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            Yup, what he said!!!
        • Donw
          Club Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 3055

          Welcome from Maryland. We all keep our fingers crossed right near the beginning of the month that this will be the month we win the drawing. I already know where I’m placing my Hasty Bake when I win first prize.🙂


          • RichieB
            Club Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 1403
            • Western Mass

            Welcome from Western Massachusetts.


            • jfmorris
              Club Member
              • Nov 2017
              • 3032
              • Huntsville, Alabama
              • Jim Morris

                • Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
                • Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
                • Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip ‘N Griddle & Party Q (2007)
                • Custom Built Offset Smoker (304SS, 22"x34" grate, circa 1985)
                • King Kooker 94/90TKD 105K/60K dual burner patio stove
                • Lodge L8D03 5 quart dutch oven
                • Lodge L10SK3 12" skillet
                • Anova
                • Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
                • Thermoworks Dot
                • Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
                • Thermoworks RT600C
                • Whatever I brewed and have on tap!

              Welcome to the Pit from Alabama!

              You cannot go wrong with either the PBC or a 22" kettle + SNS. Or a Hasty Bake!

              Personally, I feel that the kettle is the most flexible, and the 22" size offers the most variety of accessories from both Weber and 3rd parties. You cannot smoke quite as much as you can on the PBC, but you can both smoke AND grill. And rotisserie, get a Santa Maria grill attachment. The list is endless. I have a Weber Performer Deluxe, which has a spacious side table that I use for food prep during outdoor cooking, and as a handy place to set stuff. It also has propane ignition for the charcoal, which is convenient, and a storage bin for charcoal. It is probably my favorite of my cookers, if I could only have one - that would be the one.

              The Hastybake is a super top notch grill, but has a learning curve, and uses more fuel to cook with, as its not as tightly sealed as the Weber kettles are - but you are right - it can do it all, on one cooker.

              The PBC is more for smoking, less for grilling, as it only has an 18" grate, and its fairly high above the fire. And note that the PBC has a different flavor profile than the other grills, due to grease dripping into the fire and producing smoke/vapor. The others will produce just smoke form charcoal and whatever smoking wood you add, when smoking.


              • clb239
                Club Member
                • Oct 2016
                • 712
                • Farmville, Va
                • TSmokers / Grills
                  Weber 22" w/ SnS & GrillGrates
                  Pit Barrel Cooker
                  OKJ Bandera
                  22" Blackstone
                  Meadow Creek PR42G

                  Lavatools Javelin
                  Thermoworks Thermopen mk4
                  Maverick XR-50
                  Maverick ET-732
                  Maverick ET-735

                  Instagram and Facebook @bkydbbq

                Welcome from Farmville, Va.


                • DavidNorcross
                  Club Member
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 1527
                  • Virginia
                  • Rec Tec RT-680
                    Coleman RoadTrip LXX
                    Javelin Pro Duo
                    More Cast Iron than I care to admit

                  Welcome from Virginia! Honestly, all that you mentioned are good and the advice you have received so far is as always spot on. Comes right down to budget. Of course once MCS kicks in you will be buying more cookers anyhow so I wouldn't worry about it! Welcome aboard!


                  • JCGrill
                    Club Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1732
                    • Minneapolis / St Paul burbs
                    • Charcoal - 22" Weber Kettle
                      Gas - Saber
                      Smoker - Green Mountain Daniel Boone
                      Portable - Charbroil Tabletop Propane Grill

                    Welcome from Minnesota.

                    My take: master what you have, and buy more. If you talk here on the boards with the right folks, I can just about guarantee that someone has tried every type of cooking with every type of cooker. Is it always the right fit? No, but you work with what you have, right? And at some point you decide to add to the arsenal, and then the learning curve gets steep again. The point is, any cooker can make great food, you can have fun doing it, and there's always more to learn.


                    • Texas Larry
                      Club Member
                      • May 2017
                      • 1433
                      • Wilson County, TX
                      • Kamado Joe Big Joe 2
                        Weber 22” Premium/SNS
                        Weber Jumbo Joe/SNS
                        Thermoworks Smoke
                        Thermoworks 2K Thermocouple
                        Thermoworks Dash
                        Too many gadgets, accessories, and tools
                        Favorite beer: Alaskan Amber

                      Welcome to the Pit from south Texas! And welcome to the MCS phenomenon🤣!


                      • ofelles
                        Club Member
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 2023
                        • Brentwood CA
                        • Yoder YS640 on Comp cart
                          Klose 20x42 Charcoal Grill
                          LSG Insulated Cabinet
                          Jumbo Joe
                          VacMaster Pro 380 sealer
                          FireBoard and Pit Bull fan
                          Thermoworks Signal
                          Thermoworks Dot
                          Thermopen Mk4

                        Welcome from just west of you. In case you have not noticed yet this site is ONE BIG rabbit hole. Any (or all) of your choice would be good. Good luck.


                        • Hulagn1971
                          Charter Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 1017
                          • NC, The Triad
                          • WSM 22.5", Pitmaster IQ110, Weber 22.5" Kettle with SNS, Weber 14" Smokey Joe.

                          Welcome from NC and whatever you choose will not be the wrong choice (I love my Weber kettles and SnS)




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