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  • Meathead
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    Fry it!

  • ComfortablyNumb
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    ofelles Absolutely! They grow wild here in the Okanogan, nestled in the shade of the sage. Normally we don't get to harvest, but since we haven't had any fires yet the Twinkies are in full bloom.

  • ofelles
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    ComfortablyNumb It's an organic/natural twinkle right?

  • FireMan
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    A good deal of science is not reality!
    Evolved huh?

  • FireMan
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    It matters not of the qualifications! What is accomplished by attacking anyone here in the Pit?

  • FireMan
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    Don’t forget that not only hasn’t he fully read all of yours and anybody else’s material, he hasn’t been around long enough to know that you aren’t bought just as the rest of us are not.
    It’s called being a rookie.
    Last edited by FireMan; August 3, 2019, 08:03 PM.

  • ComfortablyNumb
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    I'm going to step out to eat a Twinkie. Let me know if I miss anything.....

  • Meathead
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    "Natural" is shooting an animal, and eating it. What is natural about taking an animal shot in the wild, carving it up, salting it, adding spices, and subjecting it to fire? Fire/heat completely alters the chemistry. It is a PROCESS. You are processing the food. The issue at hand is how much processing you are comfortable with? How about marinating? Adding nitrite? Smoking? Preservatives that kill pathogens? Which of these processes crosses YOUR line?

    Natural is picking a grape and eating it. Squashing it, adding SO2, pouring it into a refrigerated tank, adding yeast, pouring it into a wooden barrel, aging it, bottling it. Is wine a natural product as all the books say?

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  • mountainsmoker
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    I totally agree. What is natural, eating what you catch in the wild or forage for. Farmers have for centuries going back o the Incas and the Mesopotamian's have been creating better breeds of stock and better grains. Would you call that GMO why not that was the beginning of it. They just didn't do it in test tubes. They would have if they had the technology. They had a very advanced society.

    Ron Wilson you owe Meathead an apology. You can keep your opinions but to attack another person is not ok. What qualifications do you have. So far there are no proven facts that show that an organic diet is any better than any other. Show me an article from a UMass medical journal showing it that it is better and I will believe it.
    Last edited by mountainsmoker; August 3, 2019, 07:24 PM.

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  • Meathead
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    ComfortablyNumb Thank you for explaining to Ron Wilson what I thought I explained. He would do himself a favor by re-reading my post more carefully and with an open mind, as well as the comments by you and other members who have come to understand that natural has no legal meaning. "Natural" products include poop and arsenic. Organic is another misleading term. Its legal definition has strayed so far from the mission of the founding fathers that it now allows pesticides in some cases. These are marketing words. Meaningless when it comes to health or quality. Sad.

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  • Meathead
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    That is an insult and I take it as a psersonal attack and as such it is a violation of the Pitmaster Club terms of Service. Argue against my statements but you have NO right to falsely accuse me. Anyone who spends any time on AmazingRibs.com should know that I am on nobody's payroll.

  • ComfortablyNumb
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    Originally posted by Ron Wilson View Post
    Meathead, are you being paid by the industrial food lobby? Your defense of modern processed foods make it sound like you are. Look at science and reality. We humans are animals. We evolved eating food that was not adulterated with preservatives, flavor enhancers, and other unnatural additives. It is best to realize those facts and try to eat organic/natural foods whenever we can.
    Meathead seems to enjoy getting your attention by making seemingly outrageous statements. He's not defending or endorsing what you think of as "modern processed foods", rather all foods are processed in one way or another.

    "The issue isn’t processed or not, but how is it processed? What has the processing done for the food? The idea that eating processed foods is bad for us is absurd unless you specify what the process is and what part of the process is bad for us."

    So that organic fruit you purchase in the store was picked, washed, packed in cases, stored in a refrigerated environment (to preserve it) and shipped to the store, where it was unpacked and displayed. All are processes. Now none of us would think of organic fruit as a processed food, but technically it has gone through some processing. And even if you picked it off the tree yourself, it has gone through some processing. How?

    Let's focus a bit on the word 'natural'. By definition 'natural' is 'from nature, not made or caused by humankind'. If you want truly natural vegetation, you have to go into a wilderness and forage for it. If you want natural milk, you have to suck it out of the cow's teat. If you want natural meat, you have to catch the animal and eat it without cooking or seasoning. Nature does not cultivate fields, it does not enhance the soil with imported inputs, it does not deliver unseasonal irrigation, it does not remove competing vegetation, it does not apply external protection from pests. All those processes are performed by man. So the bottom line is, anything you purchase is a store that was raised on a farm is not 'natural'.

    Now, let's talk 'organic'. It's already been discussed at length in the thread (you did read the entire thread, didn't you?) Organic means the farmer paid money to a certifying agency who verifies that the farmer has followed their rules by checking his required records and a farm inspection, however no testing of the product. It means that all inputs, such as fertilisers and PESTICIDES must be from their approved list. Anybody who does not get certified is called conventional. A large marketing campaign is waged against conventional produce, one that vilifies it as unsafe and unnatural all to frighten the consumer into purchasing organic.

    Those are the facts. Once you realise them maybe you'll actually begin to question what went into the production of your food and think for yourself, not blindly follow what the marketers want you to..

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  • Ron Wilson
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    Meathead, are you being paid by the industrial food lobby? Your defense of modern processed foods make it sound like you are. Look at science and reality. We humans are animals. We evolved eating food that was not adulterated with preservatives, flavor enhancers, and other unnatural additives. It is best to realize those facts and try to eat organic/natural foods whenever we can.

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  • Willy
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    Lol!

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    What separates conventional from organic?

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    The driveway. Those are conventional apples on the left, organic on the right.

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